Comments on: Disillusionment http://burningwords.net/2008/01/06/disillusionment/ perspectives on stuff from an angry feminist Sun, 13 Sep 2009 05:27:59 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5-RC2 By: Burning Words » Blog Archive » A proud day http://burningwords.net/2008/01/06/disillusionment/#comment-49 Burning Words » Blog Archive » A proud day Sat, 02 Feb 2008 05:21:33 +0000 http://burningwords.net/2008/01/06/disillusionment/#comment-49 [...] everything for this rally just seemed to fall into place. I blogged about one of the early meetings a few weeks ago, when things seemed pretty hopeless. I was worried few people would show, and I certainly [...] […] everything for this rally just seemed to fall into place. I blogged about one of the early meetings a few weeks ago, when things seemed pretty hopeless. I was worried few people would show, and I certainly […]

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By: Rebecca http://burningwords.net/2008/01/06/disillusionment/#comment-21 Rebecca Sat, 19 Jan 2008 09:12:22 +0000 http://burningwords.net/2008/01/06/disillusionment/#comment-21 It's good to see you dropping by, Zoe - not sure if you remember me, but we met once last year. I think it's a bit of a stretch to suggest that there's a "GLB mafia" in Canberra - there's barely anyone interested in LGBT activism at all. The Good Process folks did a good job on the first campaign, but then they got burnt out, and once they were gone, there was pretty much no one left. It's the real problem we have in this city: Labor or Liberal government, people are too apathetic to stand up and be heard when it matters. It's a bit the same with transfolk. As we have no active LGBT organisations at all, there's no organisations actually there to speak up on trans issues when they arrive. We also don't have any particularly prominent ACT-specific trans issues going on at the moment, as our legal state here is really good compared to most other jurisdictions. This said, the trans community nationwide really needs to get its act together and get a decent lobby group happening. It's a disgrace that it's fallen to you to have to do much of the work to try and change the disgusting passport laws. It’s good to see you dropping by, Zoe - not sure if you remember me, but we met once last year.

I think it’s a bit of a stretch to suggest that there’s a “GLB mafia” in Canberra - there’s barely anyone interested in LGBT activism at all. The Good Process folks did a good job on the first campaign, but then they got burnt out, and once they were gone, there was pretty much no one left. It’s the real problem we have in this city: Labor or Liberal government, people are too apathetic to stand up and be heard when it matters.

It’s a bit the same with transfolk. As we have no active LGBT organisations at all, there’s no organisations actually there to speak up on trans issues when they arrive. We also don’t have any particularly prominent ACT-specific trans issues going on at the moment, as our legal state here is really good compared to most other jurisdictions. This said, the trans community nationwide really needs to get its act together and get a decent lobby group happening. It’s a disgrace that it’s fallen to you to have to do much of the work to try and change the disgusting passport laws.

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By: Zoe Brain http://burningwords.net/2008/01/06/disillusionment/#comment-20 Zoe Brain Sat, 19 Jan 2008 08:09:01 +0000 http://burningwords.net/2008/01/06/disillusionment/#comment-20 The GLB mafia here in Canberra has far more invested in being ALP fans than agitating for GLB rights. When the Civil Unions bill could be used to embarrass the Howard Govt, they were all for it. Now it's an embarrassment to Rudd, not so much. As for Ts.. GLBT here is GLB only in effect, with T's working separately - and to some good effect - to their own ends. IMHO of course. And no-one mentions IS rights at all. The GLB mafia here in Canberra has far more invested in being ALP fans than agitating for GLB rights. When the Civil Unions bill could be used to embarrass the Howard Govt, they were all for it. Now it’s an embarrassment to Rudd, not so much.
As for Ts.. GLBT here is GLB only in effect, with T’s working separately - and to some good effect - to their own ends. IMHO of course.
And no-one mentions IS rights at all.

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By: kieran http://burningwords.net/2008/01/06/disillusionment/#comment-5 kieran Sun, 06 Jan 2008 11:05:18 +0000 http://burningwords.net/2008/01/06/disillusionment/#comment-5 I'm a heretic when it comes to "recognizing relationships". I'm one of those weird types who reckons the whole idea of having the state recognize or not recognize a relationship is just demeaning, bugger civil unions, repeal the marriage act! But I agree, in terms of achieving the same legal rights as straight Australians, the ACT Queer community has never had a better opportunity. We finally have a federal government that probably wont get away with overruling the territories legislation in the senate, we just need the territory to pass the act once more. I think the apathy comes from complacency. People just expect it to happen, Stanhope fought Howard tooth and nail over this bill, how could he not again propose it now that Rudd is in? Sorry I missed the meeting, if we do end up with a rally I hope to be there. I’m a heretic when it comes to “recognizing relationships”. I’m one of those weird types who reckons the whole idea of having the state recognize or not recognize a relationship is just demeaning, bugger civil unions, repeal the marriage act!

But I agree, in terms of achieving the same legal rights as straight Australians, the ACT Queer community has never had a better opportunity. We finally have a federal government that probably wont get away with overruling the territories legislation in the senate, we just need the territory to pass the act once more.

I think the apathy comes from complacency. People just expect it to happen, Stanhope fought Howard tooth and nail over this bill, how could he not again propose it now that Rudd is in?

Sorry I missed the meeting, if we do end up with a rally I hope to be there.

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